Rub out those split tears because we will explain to you that love just isn’t a lie! Recently we Autostraddle publisher and all around icon
Heather Hogan
speaing frankly about this lady 11 year(!!) connection with her girlfriend and all of situations future connections.
But first! We celebrate getting reunited â after an eventful summertime! â and perform a casino game of guess the tv series from fanfic.
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Heather:
We remained from whole night, in fact it is only thus out of personality for both of us. And I also believe it actually was merely, it is indicative your connection, I think, in which it had been the same as, this is exactly amazing. Let’s just do the second thing. This is so fun. Let us just do the next matter. And I also think’s just been precisely how our very own union’s already been for like 11 many years. Each step recently already been like, “This part’s great. What’s the the next thing we can easily do?” Thus, yeah.
Theme tune plays
Drew:
Hi, I’m Drew.
Christina:
And That I’m Christina.
Drew:
And introducing,
Hold off, Is It a romantic date?
Christina:
Hold off, Is It a romantic date?
is actually an Autostraddle podcast focused on the burning concern: wait, is it a night out together? Where Drew and that I discover all sorts of things about online dating. What is dating, understandingn’t matchmaking. And extremely just have a grand adventure, I’d state.
Drew:
I might in addition claim that this has been a huge adventure up until now and can keep on being. I’m Drew Gregory. I’m an author for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I also want something new to enhance the combine. I never can imagine any such thing brand new. I do believe those are my personal identities.
Christina:
Often identification doesn’t transform, despite what TikTok will say to you.
Drew:
I’m Jewish.
Christina:
Yeah. I mean likeâ
Drew:
Type of. I mean, yeah. No, I’m not spiritual, but that is in addition section of my personal identity. You’ll be able to tell from my tresses.
Christina:
That has hadn’t altered however, perhaps.
Drew:
That I’m Jewish?
Christina:
Yeah. You have been Jewish.
Drew:
No, I Am Jewish. Yeah, that failed to happen amongst the two episodes. Really, who will be you, Christina?
Christina:
I Am Christina. I am additionally an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual online. I am actually getting excited about the regarding Princess Diana season, AKA motorcycle shorts and sweatshirts. This is where i am wanting to end up being. I am in Philadelphia, so it’s 96 degrees nowadays. Therefore we’re gradually acquiring here. It’s simply like Needs it right now. It’s my personal perfect time. I do want to end up being a principal personality during the autumn, and it’s maybe not taking place however.
Drew:
Yeah. Well, what is exciting that you’re exposing just now is actually, thus for the listeners, it has been per week since our very own finally episode, that’s exactly what it usually is. But for you, we in fact taped the first six episodes once we were discovering the voice and creating this brand new podcast. We taped that ahead, however we are pretty current. Making this like we’ve had a complete summer time. Therefore we haven’t taped in several months and then we’ve already been up to all kinds of things
Christina:
Uncharted area. The very last time we recorded, we hadn’t met. We’ve came across in-person.
Drew:
That is correct! Yes!
Christina:
Drew was in my personal ding, dang residence, merely hanging out.
Drew:
Yes!
Christina:
I might just wake-up and get love, “Well, appear, that is Drew over indeed there.”
Drew:
So great.
Christina:
It actually was truly wonderful.
Drew:
You really have these a beautiful house.
Christina:
Thank-you. It’s a gay disorder residence therefore like it really dearly. Yeah. Therefore we’re simply on a new quest and it’s truly exciting to be happening this venture with the audience. Do we have other things we should pontificate when it comes to before we become into all of our little video game?
Drew:
I mean, I am not sure. I’d a huge summertime, but I Suppose situations may come up due to the fact episodes arrive, butâ¦
Christina:
Yeah, I do not would like you to weight almost everything right in front.
Drew:
You do not need us to ruin anything?
Christina:
Yeah. Load everything in the front? My Jesus, just what an awful sentence.
Drew:
It sounded slightly sexual, but in addition I really had more of a thought of wantâ
Christina:
It performed!
Drew:
I was thinking a lot more though that you are currently leaving Residence Depot and were like engaging in your car or truck, which I learn there isn’t, but that was in addition where my mind is, that also could be intimate.
Christina:
I also only love that the thing which is keeping myself from likely to Residence Depot is a motor vehicle rather than the actual person that i’m. Like each time i have been at a Home Depot, somebody happens to be like, “Ma’am could you be missing? Have you been safe right here?” And that I’m love, “No, frankly. Such wood about. I’m not secure.” Therefore I have a game for Drew because we love to play games.
Drew:
I’m paying attention.
Christina:
And that I made the decision, both in respect of my self and our guest, that the would definitely be only a little intro into the world of fanfic for Drew. Just what We have completed is actually I used five shows from Drew’s Favorite Characters in tv record, and I am likely to read you some tags from AO3’s fanfiction and you are clearly going to need guess which of the programs these tags are making reference to. I’ll start general, they’re going to acquire more particular on the tv show as we go along.
Drew:
Okay. I Simply involve some concernsâ
Christina:
Obviously you are doing.
Drew:
Because I’m not sure a large number about the fanfic world. Thus every show features words which are associated with that demonstrate?
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
That range in specificity, I would personally picture?
Christina:
Sure. Yes, they do.
Drew:
So should you decide planned to discover a show that had like, I am not sure, medieval times you might smack the medieval label.
Christina:
We’ll say that i did not discover any medieval instances tags in every of those programs. Want to notice it.
Drew:
Well, that’s not my flavor, but I became just throwing something out.
Christina:
Yes.
Drew:
Because I guess in my head, I was like, oh, well, if you should be reading fanfic, you are looking for indicates that have figures you like. But that’s not at all times the fact. Often you are just looking for a topic and then you can discover programs through the fanfic?
Christina:
You could potentially. That could be a strange option to approach fanfic because most individuals address it knowing the ship they’ve got at heart. And then they do say, I would like to read perhaps an alternate world type of this fanfic. Maybe i’d like some harm convenience. Probably I would like a slow burn. Perhaps i recently want some upright smut. There’s lots of locations wherein folks get. Immediately after which additionally, there is simply added tags, helping you discover the type of flavor and vibe for the tale. And then we’re going to go flavor and feeling. Because certainly boats will provide it out and an alternate world is not specifically helpful per the tv show, so wewill be specific to the program.
Drew:
Okay, cool. Why don’t we hop involved with it.
Christina:
Okay.
Drew:
Let us discover collectively. Yeah.
Christina:
Fine. Your first one. We’re going to begin with fictional politics, praise kink, abandonment issues, very sluggish burn.
Drew:
Compliments kink, political⦠Fictional politics?
Christina:
Fictional politics, yes.
Drew:
Does which means that like politics which are grounded within the real-world, but they are imaginary or entirely fictional politics?
Christina:
You will findn’t read the fic concerned, but i am presuming this means completely imaginary politics.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
We are able to carry on.
Drew:
Yeah, continue.
Christina:
Last punishment, hurt comfort, i would like comfortable what to stay and therefore do you actually. Entertaining tag. Simply must review that certain.
Drew:
Okay, hold off. Maybe i ought to just take one minute and consider what the best programs are. Okay. Because i am attempting to think of the suggests that have actually politics inside. Oh hold off, could it be
The L Word?
Christina:
That one is not
The L Keyword.
No.
Drew:
Because that has artificial politics.
Christina:
It can.
Drew:
Because Bette works for gran. I’m not sure any time you understand that.
Christina:
Oh, I do.
Drew:
Okay, let us see. What otherâ¦
Vida
has politics.
Christina:
Vida
has politics.
Drew:
Will it be
Vida?
Christina:
Unfortuitously,
Vida
do not have any fanfics.
Drew:
Oh, exactly what?
Christina:
I know. So men and women, get to it.
Drew:
Men and women, access that. I’d review that fanfic.
Christina:
Men and women, arrive at it.
Drew:
Okay. Let us see. How Many Otherâ¦
Christina:
I could continue.
Drew:
Continue. Yeah.
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Christina:
Cat and mouse. Possessive behavior.
Drew:
Oh, oh,
Killing Eve.
Christina:
There you go.
Drew:
Cat and mouse got me. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it is all pressing. It’s all pressing.
Christina:
Everything ticks. All of it clicks. It was also difficult because I got to get people that have been particular enough to the show, but like, it may surprise that know there are many praise kink situations nowadays.
Drew:
Yeah.
Christina:
Like a bunch. The same as a lot.
Drew:
It’s my opinion that. I adore our society.
Christina:
I understand. One of these simple isn’t in your a number of favored television shows and/or favored television figures because a few of your favorite television shows didn’t have fics, which had been unfortunate.
Drew:
Great.
Christina:
But this will be a tv series there is spoken of a ton and I believe you will definately get it.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
Sooner or later. This will be will be so easy for your needs, i’m.
Drew:
Oh, Jesus. Pressure.
Christina:
Male relationship. Emotionally repressed.
Drew:
Searching?
Christina:
No.
Drew:
Ted Lasso?
Christina:
Yep. Yep.
Drew:
Like, just what demonstrates carry out we enjoy with men? Okay, let us decide to try the gay any. Nope. Why don’t we try the directly one.
Christina:
Yeah, one other one was going to be “team connecting” and I was actually like, that is a simple one. Absolutely a simple one. All right. Why don’t we see. Canon character death, LGBTQ character of shade. Absolutely a tongue twister individually. Categories of option. Mom child relationship.
Drew:
Feel 8?
Christina:
No. in your neighborhood, I would personally state. I would state because region.
Drew:
Pose?
Christina:
Yeah. The following one would be canon gender work, thus â okay, we now have two a lot more.
Drew:
Okay. I love it.
Christina:
Jealousy. Im afraid of your after that event because Really don’t trust the people. A literal tag about fic. Famous.
Drew:
Okay. After all, I don’t think
Glee
is found on my listing, but that’s what I would initial believe.
Christina:
It isn’t
Glee.
I do not consider
Glee
ended up being on any lists.
Drew:
It isn’t really.
Christina:
But amusing point. Ex-lovers to friends returning to fans trope, household feels, friendship. A lengthy awaited reunion.
Drew:
Ex-lovers to pals straight back. So is this
The L word?
Christina:
Truly
The L word.
Drew:
Okay. I found myself like, ex-lovers to pals back again to ex⦠Yeah, the ex-lovers.
Christina:
The sad most important factor of
The L term
fanfic may be the staggering quantity of Bette Tina fanfic can be like, y’all demand toâ¦
Drew:
You are aware, I think we would have a reason to find yourself in this afterwards. Which is a little tease for the major topic.
Christina:
Fine. Anxiety.
Drew:
Okay.
Christina:
Bittersweet closing.
Drew:
Freaks and Geeks?
Christina:
Close â no, perhaps not near. I really don’t should lie to you.
Drew:
I am not sure exactly why. I just took a jab at angst and bittersweet closing. That’s simply sort of my personal thing.
Christina:
Yeah. That is true. That is very true. Romance (very unfortunate). That is in parentheses, the very sad.
Drew:
And it’s maybe not
The Leftovers.
Christina:
It isn’t
The Leftovers.
I’m not planning to give this-
Drew:
Okay. I will be capable of geting this. Thus anxiety.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Drew:
Bittersweet ending.
Christina:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.
Drew:
Romance, extremely sad.
Christina:
Unresolved intimate stress.
Drew:
This is exactly all. This is simply me personally. This is exactly like everything. This might you should be something.
Christina:
Yeah, thank you for visiting fanfic, hottie.
Drew:
Ooh. I am talking about, wow. Just what a welcome.
Christina:
Pining is yet another one.
Drew:
How so is this in identical family members? Okay, wait, let me think of demonstrates that I love being homosexual and possess an angst. Pining.
Christina:
I’ll say this show isn’t gay.
Drew:
Oh.
Christina:
But it’s a show that I know you love.
Drew:
Ooh.
Christina:
Would you like one whichwill give it out?
Drew:
I Actually Do think we must access it making use of podcastâ
Christina:
I really do.
Drew:
In case it had been only both you and I really like hanging out as pals, I would personally end up like, no, no, no, give me personally a 1 / 2 time. But fine, offer me personally the one.
Christina:
Blasphemy, spiritual injury.
Drew:
Fleabag.
Christina:
There it’s.
Drew:
There its.
Fleabag
is actually a show that since certain insane tradition around it has got gone away and it is nothing like every one of these frustrating individuals personalities, i am similar, incredible program.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
Only the program.
Christina:
Yeah.
Drew:
What an excellent, great tv plan. That was an enjoyable experience. Thank you so much.
Christina:
Anytime.
Drew:
And that I’d always simply generate a public service⦠No, that’s not the goals. Exactly like a request to people that i would like some
Vida
fanfic. I’ll read it. I’m not sure who Needs that it is between. Perhaps it may be, what exactly is it also known as when it is like two⦠We did this. We performed this inside television team. We performed like a cross⦠what is the word for it? What is it when it’s like multiple programs?
Christina:
Yeah. Cross⦠Cross⦠That thing. I’m sure what you are saying. I can not consider the word. We’re able to bring our very own guest in. I understand they are aware your message.
Drew:
Okay. We will enter the major subject we are able to pull in the guest so the woman head does not explode as she is attempting to inform us this phrase. Guest, want to present yourself?
Heather:
Yes. Hello, this will be Heather Hogan. I am an Autostraddle copywriter and editor. And usually while I hear this podcast, we play along think its great’s a game show whenever y’all are doing your own games. It was very difficult in my situation become silent while this ended up being happening.
Christina:
I became like, this will be probably going to be actually enjoyable, but it’s also likely to be so very hard for me personally for this and Heather just be hushed.
Heather:
Yeah. My personal favorite to date has been, “whom stated It: Drew or Sappho?”
Christina:
Thanks a lot.
Heather:
And I also was actually really cheering like I happened to be on
The Cost Is Right.
I became want, “Christina, no it really is Drew! Its Drew! Its Drew! No, its Sappho!” However you did great. You probably didn’t also need my personal assistance at that video game.
Christina:
Re-listening to this one, I was like, well, damn i know my pals slash I guess the text of Sappho.
Heather:
You did very well.
Drew:
You smashed it. I additionally went through⦠to ensure the video game worked, I attempted it on a few folks. Some individuals that do understand myself better than you are doing, Christina, in addition they all cannot get it done. So I was actually really satisfied by you.
Christina:
Appears like I’m successful, which can be what things.
Drew:
Heather, tell us just what that word is actually for the fanfiction.
Heather:
It’s simply crossover.
Christina:
It really is a crossover, yeah!
Drew:
Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I thought there was clearly some extravagant phrase for this. But anyways, if someone would like to create
Vida
fanfic that’s a crossover, it is something else entirely that I favor. I would love to see a lot more of it. So our primary topic recently isn’t fanfic. Its long-term interactions. Because, Heather, the length of time have you been in your existing union?
Heather:
I have been using my partner for 11 many years.
Drew:
Oh, that’s way too long.
Christina:
Drew, maybe you have completed any such thing regularly for 11 years? Because We undoubtedly have not.
Drew:
No, not really gender. I’ven’t done any such thing. What have We {done|completed|acco